Svo Conversion?

[mickpa]

Has anyone had their car converted to run on vegetable oil and if so what are your experiences?

 

I've done some research on the subject and believe the 130 PD I drive can be converted using one of the several 2 tank systems available, but would like some first hand advice/experience before committing to it.

[Guest MATT jr]

:D :D

 

cant say iv put veggie oil in ours (although french diesel comes close! - very, "lumpy" haha)

 

uncle used to mix 50/50 diesel/veg oil in his old, OLD Volvo, run fine!

 

...doesn't do it anymore tho.

 

MJR :D

[mumof4]

Has anyone had their car converted to run on vegetable oil and if so what are your experiences?

 

I've done some research on the subject and believe the 130 PD I drive can be converted using one of the several 2 tank systems available, but would like some first hand advice/experience before committing to it.

 

 

Hit the search engine..been covered before..also search for bio diesel i think it is..id search for you but its bed time for the kids so havent the time. :D

 

Why on earth woyld you want to convert a brand new car??

[mickpa]

Has anyone had their car converted to run on vegetable oil and if so what are your experiences?

 

I've done some research on the subject and believe the 130 PD I drive can be converted using one of the several 2 tank systems available, but would like some first hand advice/experience before committing to it.

 

 

Hit the search engine..been covered before..also search for bio diesel i think it is..id search for you but its bed time for the kids so havent the time. :D

 

Why on earth woyld you want to convert a brand new car??

 

I'm not interested in Bio-diesal, but have investigated a number of kits from various companies that claim to have converted the PD engine sucessfully to run on SVO, mostly in europe. I was contemplating taking the car over to Germany to have it converted by Elsbett (http://www.elsbett.com/gb/about-us/introduction.html) but would prefer to have it done in this country is possible.

 

The reason? : Straight Vegetable Oil (SVO) can be bought for approx. 45p/litre or less, the duty payable is 27.1p, giving a grand total of 72.1 pence/litre.

[Guest Cepheus]

How much is the conversion? At only 15p per litre less than diesel you'll have to be doing some serious mileage to get a return on your conversion costs.

[mickpa]

How much is the conversion? At only 15p per litre less than diesel you'll have to be doing some serious mileage to get a return on your conversion costs.

 

Cost of the conversion is

[mumof4]

cost of diesel here is 91.5

[Guest Cepheus]

Diesel is between 87-90p a litre here in the midlands. If the conversion is

[Guest wolfie]

This equates to 1650 gallons. @ 40 miles per gallon for a 1.9 diesel Galaxy then you'd need to do 66,000 miles to break even - is it really worth it?

 

you dont have to do the 66K in one year! break that down over two, three years and you have your answer, the longer you keep the vehicle the better the return, after a point you not only break even but in theory start to make a profit on your original outlay :D with a conversion of this type you dont expect to recoup you costs instantly! it's an investment in the future :D

[Guest gooner52]

Diesel is between 87-90p a litre here in the midlands. If the conversion is

[Guest wolfie]

Diesel is between 87-90p a litre here in the midlands. If the conversion is

[zeplin43]

What about maintenance costs they also go up with the use of VO dont think it is worth it.

[Guest wolfie]

What about maintenance costs they also go up with the use of VO dont think it is worth it.

 

what extra costs? if any they should drop! you produce less soot as it's a cleaner burning fuel, hence less contaminance passed onto the engine oil and hence possible longer service intervals? it has a higher calorific value than diesel, so in theory the engine should run hotter and the aux heater less! so the glow plug should last longer :wacko: if there are any major increases in running costs this just delays the break even point :wacko:

[Guest Cepheus]

This equates to 1650 gallons. @ 40 miles per gallon for a 1.9 diesel Galaxy then you'd need to do 66,000 miles to break even - is it really worth it?

 

you dont have to do the 66K in one year! break that down over two, three years and you have your answer, the longer you keep the vehicle the better the return, after a point you not only break even but in theory start to make a profit on your original outlay :lol: with a conversion of this type you dont expect to recoup you costs instantly! it's an investment in the future :lol:

 

Like I said in my first post, you'd have to be doing some serious mileage to make this worthwhile. It'd take me about 6 years to break even so personnally wouldn't consider it! :rolleyes:

[NikpV]

This equates to 1650 gallons. @ 40 miles per gallon for a 1.9 diesel Galaxy then you'd need to do 66,000 miles to break even - is it really worth it?

 

you dont have to do the 66K in one year! break that down over two, three years and you have your answer, the longer you keep the vehicle the better the return, after a point you not only break even but in theory start to make a profit on your original outlay :lol: with a conversion of this type you dont expect to recoup you costs instantly! it's an investment in the future :lol:

 

Like I said in my first post, you'd have to be doing some serious mileage to make this worthwhile. It'd take me about 6 years to break even so personnally wouldn't consider it! :rolleyes:

 

 

bloody 'ell surely you could walk to the corner shop every 2 weeks rather than wear out the galaxy :D :lol: :P

[Guest gooner52]

:rolleyes: depends how far your corner shop is :lol:

[MrT]

and in turn not feel guilty about screwing up the ozone layer from the extra jet fuel burnt as he's using a green renewable fuel to drive to to the airport and back :rolleyes:

 

I thought burning veggie oil produced the same volume of C02 (greenhouse gases) as normal diesel and in doing so was just of much as of a pollutant?

 

Do people actually declare to the taxman every litre of veggie oil they put in their car? I am sure many people inadvertently overlook a few.

[NikpV]

the point being that growibg the plants to make the oil locks up the co2 in the first place so on a contemporary timescale it is neutral

[Guest MATT jr]

...you might be better spending the money on attaching a sail to your roof and utilising the wind power!

 

 

...personally, i would spend the money on fuel, rather than convert it.

 

 

 

MJR

[Big Tyke]

sure there is some goverment agency monitoring all this and totting up all the cost saving examples you have found. eventhough we all know what saves money we don't all always let on, or them in high places will slap another tax on top of all the hiden taxes us motorists already pay.

[Chris Jones]

Lighten up.

 

If you are going to do a conversion the newer the car the better. Better pay back. My old bus is coming up to K if the conversion had been done on mine when it was new it would have been payed for three times over.

 

Veg oil was the original fuel for diesels until the big oil companies got there way.

[Guest gooner52]

sun flower oil any good

 

know a man down dagenham market can get us a great deal for a bulk buy

 

its friday

 

its chips its chips its chips,i do hope its chips its chips its chips ;) ;) :lol: :16: :16: :16: :16:

 

i hate chips :29: :29:

[Chris Jones]

cheap as

[jackthehat.co.uk]

I think the main thing you've got to look at here is the tax aspect. Let's not beat around the bush.... in the real world who is actually going to tell the taxman anyway? Even if you're a worrier you could just pay the tax on half the veggie oil and tell the taxman you used normal diesel the rest of the time. Contrary to popular belief the Inland Revenue don't pursue tax evaders as hard as they make out. We reported someone for tax evasion years ago and presented them with photgraphic and video evidence... they even got the culprits into the office and they admitted it! Even after all that they were too tired to prosecute them and just let them off.

 

The other thing to remember is that unlike red diesel it is hard to tell if your car has been running on veggie oil without a serious inspection.

 

So, if you don't pay the tax then 45p per litre is a good saving.

 

I have a Ford Granada 2.9V6 that has been running on LPG for years. That is also around 45p per litre and it has literally saved me thousands of pounds. The car has done nearly 190K and runs like a dream because LPG isn't as harmful to the engine as petrol. I've also considered filling her up from Propane cylinders as that costs around 25p per litre. Again, I'd have to avoid telling the taxman.

[big_kev]

 

 

I have a Ford Granada 2.9V6 that has been running on LPG for years. That is also around 45p per litre and it has literally saved me thousands of pounds.

Doesn't really compare as you would have made similar savings if you had just bought a diesel in the first place.

 

I think that you are right however, in part, as the savings to be made from converting an existing big petrol engine to LPG are well justified ( apart from the time bomb in the boot ).

 

Like the idea of the tanks in the back though for the galaxy...surely they would be less likely to be damaged inside the car than underneath..........anyone got mods for fitting tanks underneath the rear two seats ?

 

 

Cost of the conversion is